Surfaces are everywhere — and most people have no idea how much engineering goes into them. SDS founder and CEO Tevis Jacobs joined Charles Mansfield on The Pittsburgh Startup Podcast to pull back the curtain on why surface design is one of manufacturing's hardest unsolved problems. They covered everything from the science of why products fail to how AI is changing what's possible in a field that's long relied on trial and error. Check it out – whether you're a founder, an engineer, or just someone who wants to understand the hidden complexity in the objects around you.